Opinion

'I never expect anything'

You have just re­turned from the Cannes film fes­ti­val, where your lat­est film, The Death of Louis XIV, was re­ceived with great crit­i­cal ac­claim.
 
It is prob­a­bly my first film more suit­able for all au­di­ences. It's not con­ven­tional, in fact it's quite chal­leng­ing, even at the level of time, be­cause it's quite slow and long. Peo­ple liked it, didn't find it too wild, or too con­fus­ing, or too ab­stract. It was to­tally un­ex­pected, and we worked as al­ways be­fore, only with an artis­tic goal in mind, and for­get­ting every­thing else.
 
Your cin­ema has al­ways been rad­i­cal and against the stream. Is this your most con­ven­tional film so far?
The press found it the most ac­ces­si­ble film so far, maybe be­cause of the ac­tors –it's the first time I've worked with a pro­fes­sional actor, Jean-Pierre Léaud, a myth­i­cal Nou­velle Vague actor.
The film deals with the death of Louis XIV.
Yes, it's about the last 10 to 15 days of Louis XIV's life, there is al­most no po­lit­i­cal or so­cial sub­jects; it's just a por­trait of an agony, of the most pow­er­ful man of that time, who had to con­front his power against the total im­po­tence of ill­ness and death. It also deals with fi­nan­cial cri­sis, spend­ing too much money, be­cause to­wards the end of the reign of Louis XIV France was al­most bank­rupt –in a scene he tells his great-grand­son that even if you are the most pow­er­ful man in the world, if you have debts, you are dead. Debt is the worst thing, along with ill­ness, es­pe­cially if you have bad doc­tors.
You said that the suc­cess in Cannes made you feel ashamed.
Of course, be­cause I al­ways try to show peo­ple things they don't know; for me it makes no sense to give peo­ple things they al­ready recog­nise as their own think­ing or spir­i­tual life. So for me, it's the duty of an artist to al­ways cre­ate chal­leng­ing, strange things that peo­ple don't know they have in­side. So it was strange for me to re­alise the au­di­ence ac­tu­ally loved the film.
You didn't ex­pect it at all?
I never ex­pect any­thing, I al­ways think that I am quite ahead of peo­ple. My idea with Jean-Pierre Léaud was to do some­thing big. In fact the first time I met him five years ago I told him I only worked with non-pro­fes­sional ac­tors, and he replied “Don't worry, I am a pro­fes­sional non-actor”.
What was it like to work with him?
He has a rep­u­ta­tion for being ec­cen­tric and chaotic, which for me is a good point. Some­times we had dif­fer­ent ideas, but I like when ac­tors rebel against me in shoot­ings, it is much more in­ter­est­ing, I am a great fighter and I like to win, it's more fun. This is one of the main rea­sons I de­cided to be a film­maker, to have fun.
The im­ages of the film look like paint­ings.
The art di­rec­tor's work was im­por­tant, and it was a low bud­get film. With high-de­f­i­n­i­tion cam­eras it is a chal­lenge to cre­ate an old set, that doesn't look cheap, or like a TV movie. At the be­gin­ning we thought it would be easy: just one room, one space, but it was not, be­cause it had to be very close to Ver­sailles, to the room of Louis XIV, and we had a lot of fi­nan­cial and time pres­sure.
Where did you shoot the film?
In a cas­tle in Dor­dogne, which was quite dif­fi­cult and not very prac­ti­cal, but after all the prob­lems, the re­sult was worth all the ef­fort. The film was a French-Cata­lan and Por­tuguese co-pro­duc­tion.
Death is one of the themes you've often dealt with in your films. In this one, what other themes are im­por­tant?
Power and im­po­tence in fac­ing ill­ness and death. Also, the phys­i­cal­ity of ill­ness. There's a lot of se­quences about pain –the leg of the king got in­fected by gan­grene and by the time the doc­tors re­alised they should have am­pu­tated it, it had spread all over the body and it was too late.
When will the film be re­leased in Cat­alo­nia?
Prob­a­bly in No­vem­ber, and in Oc­to­ber in France. For­tu­nately the film has been bought by some big dis­trib­u­tors in the US, Canada and Japan.
Your next pro­ject is called “I am an artist”.
It's my most am­bi­tious film so far on the level of bud­get, and it's about the role of a young artist in our so­ci­ety. A bit a syn­the­sis of all my cin­e­matic knowl­edge on the for­mal side, but also so far as well my own ex­pe­ri­ence as an artist. I've been work­ing in the con­tem­po­rary art field, with some spe­cial works that are con­ceived to be watched in mu­se­ums not so much in cin­e­mas, be­cause they are long, more dif­fi­cult and more ab­stract, so I have some ex­pe­ri­ence in this: how artists nowa­days deal with so­ci­ety, money, suc­cess, the col­lec­tive and per­sonal cre­ation. I will work not with ac­tors, but with fa­mous peo­ple, play­ing the them­selves, be­cause the idea of suc­cess ver­sus fail­ure is a very im­por­tant point.
Albert Serra Each Wednesday at 7.10 pm, El Punt Avui TV airs the series of interviews, Catalan Connections. Marcela Topor talked to the filmmaker Albert Serra about his latest film, The Death of Louis XIV.
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