Interview

'Artists should try to be different'

Albert Serra Every Wednesday at 6.30pm on El Punt Avui TV, Marcela interviews prominent English speaking residents in Catalonia or relevant Catalan figures. Here is her recent interview with Albert Serra.
You're wear­ing sun­glasses. Tell me about your look.
I try to make a dif­fer­ence. I've al­ways thought that artists, as they are dif­fer­ent from other peo­ple, should be­have or dress a lit­tle bit dif­fer­ent as well.
What mes­sage are you send­ing with your image?
It's like an at­ti­tude and a men­tal dis­ci­pline. Dalí said that artists should al­ways put pres­sure on them­selves and try to find new orig­i­nal ideas. Your image is part of this ac­tiv­ity as an artist.
Tell me about your re­la­tion­ship with Eng­lish.
I started as a kid with pri­vate lessons, and then when meet­ing peo­ple from other coun­tries it's nat­ural to prac­tise be­cause it's the uni­ver­sal lan­guage.
Do you find it easy to learn new lan­guages?
I know French bet­ter; it's my favourite lan­guage. I also speak Ital­ian, but not Ger­man, even though I spent three months in Ger­many two years ago.
What do you think of the fact that most TV and cin­ema is dubbed here?
I hate that. Orig­i­nal ver­sion is very good for lan­guages and qual­ity in gen­eral. It's a big mis­take not to change dub­bing, from the artis­tic and moral point of view, and for gen­eral el­e­gance. Dub­bing kills 30 or 40 per cent of the magic of films. In east­ern coun­tries or Por­tu­gal, they don't dub, and they have a bet­ter tra­di­tion in cin­ema. They build up cin­e­matog­ra­phy with a per­son­al­ity, not based only on Hol­ly­wood cri­te­ria. But here politi­cians don't have the courage to do some­thing that could be con­tro­ver­sial.
Tate Mod­ern showed a ret­ro­spec­tive of your fil­mog­ra­phy in March.
It's not my first ret­ro­spec­tive, but it's the first one in the UK.
One of the films was The Story of My Death, which re­ceived crit­i­cal ac­claim.
It's my most suc­cess­ful film, and got an im­por­tant award at Lo­carno. It stars Casanova and Drac­ula, so it was risky be­cause it could have looked grotesque mix­ing these two char­ac­ters. But for me it is im­por­tant to start any pro­ject with some­thing chal­leng­ing and it worked.
You de­scribed it as a Baroque jour­ney through the lim­its of plea­sure, pain and de­sire. The im­agery is stun­ning.
Maybe be­cause I don't like to move the cam­era peo­ple some­times say they look like paint­ings. I like long takes, it's a char­ac­ter­is­tic of all my work and it deals with the sub­ject of time, the per­cep­tion of time, the con­tem­pla­tion of it, a more at­mos­pheric ap­proach to im­ages. It's part of my style.
You are going to rep­re­sent Cat­alo­nia at the Bi­en­nale fes­ti­val in Venice in May.
It's an in­stal­la­tion with five screens, called La Sin­gu­lar­i­tat. It's based on the idea that maybe one day ma­chines will be more pow­er­ful than hu­mans. I use a lot of fan­tasy and other el­e­ments I can't usu­ally use in fea­ture films so it will be orig­i­nal and unique for sure.
You are also prepar­ing a new film on the death of Louis XIV, with Jean Pierre Léaud, an icon of the French nou­velle vague.
Yes, an old pro­ject of mine. When I first talked to Jean Pierre I told him that I had only worked with non-pro­fes­sional ac­tors be­fore, and he said not to worry, as he is a pro­fes­sional non actor. He is amaz­ing and I think ideal for the role.
Tell me about your idea of work­ing with am­a­teurs.
The main rea­son and the truth is be­cause I don't like pro­fes­sional ac­tors as human be­ings. I met many of them at the In­sti­tut del Teatre. I know them well; they are trans­par­ent for me, and I don't like their souls.
So how do you choose your ac­tors then?
By chance in gen­eral. It's in­tu­ition, it's part of my job and my tal­ent. I think cast­ing is very im­por­tant be­cause in the mid­dle of the shoot­ing you can­not change your ac­tors so you have to be aware of your choices be­fore.
Peo­ple seem to ei­ther love or or hate your work.
My work is orig­i­nal and dif­fer­ent. It's pure fan­tasy, like a psy­che­delic trip; you ac­cept it or re­ject it. You are not there to judge what's going on, you are in­side or out­side. You can have a good or bad psy­che­delic trip of course, it's part of the deal.
Are im­ages more im­por­tant than the script?
Go­dard said that there are film­mak­ers who shoot with the cam­era and oth­ers who shoot with pro­jec­tors. But pro­jec­tors don't record, so you have to for­get what is be­hind the cam­era, the idea that you had in your head or the script, and re­ally con­cen­trate on what is in front of you and the cam­era.
Your next film, I am an Artist, will be in Eng­lish, Cata­lan and Span­ish.
It is per­haps my most am­bi­tious film so far. It will be in dif­fer­ent lan­guages be­cause it is a por­trait of the con­tem­po­rary art world. In fact it is a por­trait of the young artist nowa­days.
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